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That's great info Simon ..... I guess trying to get a bit of extra out of the front from better pads would be worth trying then.??
K Yes, getting more front bite will significantly help I don’t recommend EBC though, I’ve never had good experiences with any of their pad materials. I always recommend Mintex 1144 compound pads for “enthusiastic” road driving . They’ve got good cold bite, a higher Mu (friction level) and good progressive feel
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Just barreling along Needs to Get Out More!
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I don't know the OE brand of pads the factory fit, but I have always swopped to genuine Ferodo pads and found them good for spirited road use
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@ Simon, great info... so converting the Roadster is no option anyway. Any recommendations what can be done on the rear drums to avoid overheating? No sure what is meant by Minifins or Datsun-style drums, as stated by Rovert.
2010 Roadster Sport 3.0 (S3) - black 1997 Mazda MX5 1.6 (NA) - red
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@ Simon, great info... so converting the Roadster is no option anyway. Any recommendations what can be done on the rear drums to avoid overheating? No sure what is meant by Minifins or Datsun-style drums, as stated by Rovert.
These - Alfin rear drumsExpensive, but cheaper than a conversion to disc.
"Y mae dafad ddu ym mhob praidd" 1972 4/4, 1981 MGBGT, 1984 FLHT1340, 1980 XLH1000, 1990 ZX10
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@ Simon, great info... so converting the Roadster is no option anyway. Any recommendations what can be done on the rear drums to avoid overheating? No sure what is meant by Minifins or Datsun-style drums, as stated by Rovert.
This is the mod to stop the rear brake shoes from over adjusting https://www.gomog.com/allmorgan/APBRAKES.html#SAFETY
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@ Simon, great info... so converting the Roadster is no option anyway. Any recommendations what can be done on the rear drums to avoid overheating? No sure what is meant by Minifins or Datsun-style drums, as stated by Rovert.
Here is the Alfin and Datsun story from the gomog site to supplement TBM's advise.
2009 4/4 Sport Henrietta 1999 Indigo Blue +8 2009 4/4 Sport Green prev 1993 Con Green +8 prev
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@ Simon, great info... so converting the Roadster is no option anyway. Any recommendations what can be done on the rear drums to avoid overheating? No sure what is meant by Minifins or Datsun-style drums, as stated by Rovert.
These - Alfin rear drumsExpensive, but cheaper than a conversion to disc. Oops Alfin's of course. Spending too much time on A-Series reading. Minifins are Minis only.
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Have you your brakes tested on a bench and what front and rear forces did you get ?
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Testing on a bench or with an MoT doesnt adress the issue the OP raised. The problem with drum brakes is dissipation of the heat that is generated when you brake. You can help this a bit by replacing cast iron drums with Alfin type aluminium drums as was common in the 60s but the real cure is disc brakes as jaguar demonstrated at le Mans. The disc and piston is exposed to the air and is way better cooled than a drum.
If the brakes get really hot then water in the brake fluid boils and maybe even the fluid itself boils. This means gas in the brake lines which is easily compressed unlike a liquid and so the pressure on the brake shoes is reduced and the braking effect is reduced too.
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Back in t' olden days we were taught to use the correct gear for steep descents
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